1 00:00:07,550 --> 00:00:04,610 what's up everybody happy Wednesday 2 00:00:09,710 --> 00:00:07,560 I'm starting a little early so 3 00:00:11,089 --> 00:00:09,720 we can get into this because I know 4 00:00:13,450 --> 00:00:11,099 you're all waiting thanks for being here 5 00:00:16,369 --> 00:00:13,460 Escape VX Owen from Ohio Robert 6 00:00:19,430 --> 00:00:16,379 everybody else I appreciate it we're 7 00:00:21,650 --> 00:00:19,440 live today these are more rare than not 8 00:00:25,609 --> 00:00:21,660 so I appreciate you guys hanging out uh 9 00:00:27,950 --> 00:00:25,619 we have a fantastic guest today uh named 10 00:00:31,130 --> 00:00:27,960 Mr Matt lasso who has just been crushing 11 00:00:34,790 --> 00:00:31,140 it in the UAB field getting comments 12 00:00:38,030 --> 00:00:34,800 from everyone from Burchette 13 00:00:40,430 --> 00:00:38,040 um Rubio Mark Warner got a very 14 00:00:42,470 --> 00:00:40,440 interesting comment from him and others 15 00:00:45,470 --> 00:00:42,480 and we're going to get into that too but 16 00:00:48,889 --> 00:00:45,480 first I want to actually read 17 00:00:53,029 --> 00:00:48,899 a quick piece 18 00:00:57,350 --> 00:00:55,670 and it's on Mr timbrecht if 19 00:00:59,869 --> 00:00:57,360 Timber Chet 20 00:01:01,549 --> 00:00:59,879 Republican Tennessee gets his way the 21 00:01:04,670 --> 00:01:01,559 U.S House of Representatives will hold 22 00:01:07,130 --> 00:01:04,680 public hearings on UAP formerly known as 23 00:01:09,109 --> 00:01:07,140 UFOs when lawmakers return from their 24 00:01:12,050 --> 00:01:09,119 current two-week July 4th recess before 25 00:01:14,750 --> 00:01:12,060 lawmakers leave Washington for their 26 00:01:17,270 --> 00:01:14,760 month-long August recess hopefully here 27 00:01:19,010 --> 00:01:17,280 in the next few couple of weeks we ought 28 00:01:20,990 --> 00:01:19,020 to get a date for you Richard told me 29 00:01:22,730 --> 00:01:21,000 while walking across the capitol grounds 30 00:01:26,090 --> 00:01:22,740 last week 31 00:01:27,469 --> 00:01:26,100 so in Burchette you know he doesn't like 32 00:01:29,210 --> 00:01:27,479 Arrow he thinks the information is 33 00:01:30,950 --> 00:01:29,220 already there and he wants it now so he 34 00:01:32,929 --> 00:01:30,960 says because they've already got 35 00:01:34,550 --> 00:01:32,939 information that we'd like to see when 36 00:01:37,069 --> 00:01:34,560 we have a whistleblower saying they've 37 00:01:38,569 --> 00:01:37,079 collected that they have bodies that 38 00:01:40,789 --> 00:01:38,579 they have craft 39 00:01:43,550 --> 00:01:40,799 I'd like to hear the testimony burchett 40 00:01:47,030 --> 00:01:43,560 says so without further Ado we are going 41 00:01:48,609 --> 00:01:47,040 to bring on the men of the hour who 42 00:01:52,609 --> 00:01:48,619 wrote this piece 43 00:01:58,149 --> 00:01:55,670 Mr Man how are you sir hey 44 00:02:02,210 --> 00:01:58,159 I got my pulse I like that 45 00:02:04,010 --> 00:02:02,220 yeah cool so this is Matt everybody 46 00:02:05,389 --> 00:02:04,020 um I hope 47 00:02:06,950 --> 00:02:05,399 um you check out his work he's been 48 00:02:08,630 --> 00:02:06,960 doing great work in the UAP field and 49 00:02:11,510 --> 00:02:08,640 he's been a really Stellar journalist 50 00:02:13,850 --> 00:02:11,520 for a long time so in one second I'll be 51 00:02:16,550 --> 00:02:13,860 back and we'll talk to him 52 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:16,560 tonight we go after a fantastic story 53 00:02:32,110 --> 00:02:17,730 foreign 54 00:03:04,070 --> 00:03:02,030 [Music] 55 00:03:07,910 --> 00:03:04,080 I had to give you the punk rock haircut 56 00:03:09,170 --> 00:03:07,920 picture man that's the best one so no 57 00:03:10,729 --> 00:03:09,180 thanks for everything you're doing 58 00:03:12,470 --> 00:03:10,739 thanks for taking the time out to do 59 00:03:14,869 --> 00:03:12,480 this interview with me 60 00:03:17,690 --> 00:03:14,879 um you have been cut you just kind of 61 00:03:19,369 --> 00:03:17,700 busted on the UAP scene here and UFO 62 00:03:21,649 --> 00:03:19,379 Twitter and all that getting some great 63 00:03:22,970 --> 00:03:21,659 quotes from some some pretty heavy 64 00:03:23,750 --> 00:03:22,980 people 65 00:03:27,729 --> 00:03:23,760 um 66 00:03:30,229 --> 00:03:27,739 Mr Mark Marco Rubio and Mark Warner were 67 00:03:32,869 --> 00:03:30,239 Angela brand were kind of the the people 68 00:03:34,790 --> 00:03:32,879 that really uh pushed this whole thing a 69 00:03:36,649 --> 00:03:34,800 few years ago is starting the UAP task 70 00:03:38,690 --> 00:03:36,659 force in Arrow 71 00:03:42,770 --> 00:03:38,700 um were you familiar with this whole 72 00:03:45,649 --> 00:03:42,780 effort at that point and if not what do 73 00:03:47,570 --> 00:03:45,659 you make of uh the history here within 74 00:03:50,149 --> 00:03:47,580 the past few years 75 00:03:52,910 --> 00:03:50,159 so like was it two years ago Congress 76 00:03:55,149 --> 00:03:52,920 had their first hearing on uaps or UFOs 77 00:03:58,729 --> 00:03:55,159 actually and uh yeah 78 00:04:01,369 --> 00:03:58,739 more than 50 years so like watch that 79 00:04:04,369 --> 00:04:01,379 like everyone else but that became like 80 00:04:08,930 --> 00:04:04,379 MSM or mainstream media Feeding Frenzy 81 00:04:11,630 --> 00:04:08,940 so as a freelancer I watched it but 82 00:04:12,949 --> 00:04:11,640 from afar because like my clients aren't 83 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:12,959 going to have me 84 00:04:18,050 --> 00:04:15,060 cover a hearing they're going to cover 85 00:04:20,629 --> 00:04:18,060 that so then it honestly fell off a lot 86 00:04:22,490 --> 00:04:20,639 of our Radars you'd still hear it talked 87 00:04:24,409 --> 00:04:22,500 about a little bit and I would like 88 00:04:27,350 --> 00:04:24,419 probably even joke with lawmakers about 89 00:04:30,469 --> 00:04:27,360 it like hey any update or whatever 90 00:04:32,050 --> 00:04:30,479 um but this whistleblower uh David crush 91 00:04:35,030 --> 00:04:32,060 he's this 92 00:04:38,330 --> 00:04:35,040 exploded the conversation really right 93 00:04:40,129 --> 00:04:38,340 back onto Capitol Hill and 94 00:04:42,409 --> 00:04:40,139 the fascinating thing to me you know 95 00:04:44,450 --> 00:04:42,419 I've covered Congress 17 years also a 96 00:04:46,610 --> 00:04:44,460 professor at a few schools like Johns 97 00:04:48,530 --> 00:04:46,620 Hopkins is the main one right 98 00:04:50,570 --> 00:04:48,540 um where I teach them like the history 99 00:04:53,210 --> 00:04:50,580 of media but looking at how technology 100 00:04:54,170 --> 00:04:53,220 has impacted media and lawmakers over 101 00:04:56,749 --> 00:04:54,180 time 102 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:56,759 and so me as this Congressional junkie 103 00:05:03,110 --> 00:04:59,460 the part of his claims you know besides 104 00:05:05,030 --> 00:05:03,120 craft and actual you know inorganic or 105 00:05:08,409 --> 00:05:05,040 organic life that he found 106 00:05:11,830 --> 00:05:08,419 um the claim that there were hidden 107 00:05:14,810 --> 00:05:11,840 programs from Congress you know the saps 108 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:14,820 that really piqued my interest and 109 00:05:19,850 --> 00:05:16,680 bringing that up to all these lawmakers 110 00:05:21,770 --> 00:05:19,860 you can tell that no matter their 111 00:05:24,070 --> 00:05:21,780 thoughts on 112 00:05:26,330 --> 00:05:24,080 what's in the heavens above 113 00:05:29,210 --> 00:05:26,340 each member of Congress if they care 114 00:05:31,850 --> 00:05:29,220 about that institution has to care about 115 00:05:33,710 --> 00:05:31,860 his claims that right the bureaucrats 116 00:05:36,170 --> 00:05:33,720 and the federal government were hiding 117 00:05:38,510 --> 00:05:36,180 things from Congress and so it kind of 118 00:05:40,370 --> 00:05:38,520 became this perfect storm 119 00:05:42,469 --> 00:05:40,380 um you know with lawmakers like 120 00:05:44,210 --> 00:05:42,479 verchette and then congresswoman Luna 121 00:05:47,270 --> 00:05:44,220 over in the house 122 00:05:49,370 --> 00:05:47,280 you know they already uh as you said 123 00:05:51,350 --> 00:05:49,380 didn't trust Arrow wanted more 124 00:05:53,150 --> 00:05:51,360 information from the Pentagon well guess 125 00:05:55,189 --> 00:05:53,160 what now a lot of these more mainstream 126 00:05:57,409 --> 00:05:55,199 lawmakers I mean the head of the Intel 127 00:06:01,029 --> 00:05:57,419 committee and device share of Intel and 128 00:06:04,310 --> 00:06:01,039 Rubio they're now on board to at least 129 00:06:06,050 --> 00:06:04,320 uncover the basis of his claims and some 130 00:06:07,550 --> 00:06:06,060 of them are still dubious of his claims 131 00:06:12,230 --> 00:06:07,560 but 132 00:06:14,749 --> 00:06:12,240 always just keep coming back around to 133 00:06:17,270 --> 00:06:14,759 like why why would this person like 134 00:06:18,710 --> 00:06:17,280 Marco Rubio I think 135 00:06:20,810 --> 00:06:18,720 you know a lot of people feel different 136 00:06:23,390 --> 00:06:20,820 ways and let their politics and beliefs 137 00:06:25,730 --> 00:06:23,400 get involved but whatever I don't I try 138 00:06:30,070 --> 00:06:25,740 not to do that Marco Rubio actually said 139 00:06:32,330 --> 00:06:30,080 I think what is the kind of mature 140 00:06:35,570 --> 00:06:32,340 level-headed way to put this which is 141 00:06:38,689 --> 00:06:35,580 listen I have people that have high 142 00:06:41,330 --> 00:06:38,699 security clearances some still have that 143 00:06:42,170 --> 00:06:41,340 are some really serious people telling 144 00:06:44,390 --> 00:06:42,180 me this 145 00:06:47,330 --> 00:06:44,400 like so we have to find out what's going 146 00:06:48,650 --> 00:06:47,340 on like and that's it that's that's what 147 00:06:50,270 --> 00:06:48,660 we have to do you know because everyone 148 00:06:53,330 --> 00:06:50,280 has their own 149 00:06:54,890 --> 00:06:53,340 um agenda and their you know that we 150 00:06:56,930 --> 00:06:54,900 shouldn't look or should look or this is 151 00:06:58,610 --> 00:06:56,940 bullcrap or not like apparently I think 152 00:07:01,129 --> 00:06:58,620 we're past that and it's like listen 153 00:07:03,110 --> 00:07:01,139 people are really saying this and now we 154 00:07:06,230 --> 00:07:03,120 have to figure out what it is but I'm 155 00:07:08,330 --> 00:07:06,240 curious um since he's spent so much time 156 00:07:10,189 --> 00:07:08,340 in this field have you ever seen 157 00:07:12,230 --> 00:07:10,199 anything like this 158 00:07:14,570 --> 00:07:12,240 well that's the Curious Thing like when 159 00:07:17,390 --> 00:07:14,580 Rubio uh 160 00:07:19,390 --> 00:07:17,400 talked to me and it once I listened back 161 00:07:22,129 --> 00:07:19,400 to it a few days later I was like whoa 162 00:07:25,189 --> 00:07:22,139 my mind blown by the interview but what 163 00:07:27,469 --> 00:07:25,199 Rubio's claim was is hey there's been a 164 00:07:29,570 --> 00:07:27,479 lot of people who claim similar things 165 00:07:31,909 --> 00:07:29,580 in the past but they've never been 166 00:07:35,150 --> 00:07:31,919 vetted and then sent along to Congress 167 00:07:38,510 --> 00:07:35,160 and he's like this time the Inspector 168 00:07:41,390 --> 00:07:38,520 General vetted it and said hey Congress 169 00:07:43,730 --> 00:07:41,400 this is something that 170 00:07:46,249 --> 00:07:43,740 should be not the top of the stack but 171 00:07:49,129 --> 00:07:46,259 near the top of the stack well yeah it 172 00:07:52,370 --> 00:07:49,139 should really be right because if this 173 00:07:53,809 --> 00:07:52,380 turns out to be you know as publicized 174 00:07:55,909 --> 00:07:53,819 or I guess as 175 00:07:57,409 --> 00:07:55,919 um you know broadcasted and we have 176 00:08:01,550 --> 00:07:57,419 these ships and everything in bodies 177 00:08:02,930 --> 00:08:01,560 like it definitely should be on the top 178 00:08:05,270 --> 00:08:02,940 of the list right because what's bigger 179 00:08:07,670 --> 00:08:05,280 than the biggest story in history and 180 00:08:10,610 --> 00:08:07,680 like I'm so thankful that people like 181 00:08:12,230 --> 00:08:10,620 you come and and handle and deal with 182 00:08:15,350 --> 00:08:12,240 this topic and aren't afraid of the 183 00:08:18,529 --> 00:08:15,360 stigma because I think everything going 184 00:08:20,570 --> 00:08:18,539 on in um I'm talking a loud story but um 185 00:08:22,969 --> 00:08:20,580 everything going on with whether it's a 186 00:08:24,529 --> 00:08:22,979 covid origins or two past presidents 187 00:08:25,850 --> 00:08:24,539 basically looking like they're going to 188 00:08:30,070 --> 00:08:25,860 jail 189 00:08:35,029 --> 00:08:30,080 um all you know all this bull crap like 190 00:08:35,570 --> 00:08:35,039 this UAP and how do you 191 00:08:37,670 --> 00:08:35,580 um 192 00:08:38,990 --> 00:08:37,680 how do you bring Justice to it all as a 193 00:08:40,730 --> 00:08:39,000 journalist you know 194 00:08:42,889 --> 00:08:40,740 well remember and 195 00:08:44,930 --> 00:08:42,899 I just was reminded of this 196 00:08:47,269 --> 00:08:44,940 even before The Whistleblower came out 197 00:08:50,449 --> 00:08:47,279 this Congress was very 198 00:08:53,810 --> 00:08:50,459 chewed in on these things because of 199 00:08:54,790 --> 00:08:53,820 the invasion of the balloons show right 200 00:08:57,170 --> 00:08:54,800 Chinese 201 00:08:58,790 --> 00:08:57,180 and then once they really started 202 00:09:01,490 --> 00:08:58,800 investigating that and then just 203 00:09:04,250 --> 00:09:01,500 remember out of nowhere in like a week 204 00:09:06,230 --> 00:09:04,260 now the Air Force shot down four objects 205 00:09:08,449 --> 00:09:06,240 that they don't know what the heck they 206 00:09:10,970 --> 00:09:08,459 are so that really peaked a lot of 207 00:09:13,070 --> 00:09:10,980 interest from lawmakers on Capitol Hill 208 00:09:17,269 --> 00:09:13,080 and then when you actually look at the 209 00:09:18,970 --> 00:09:17,279 reports from Arrow saying that hey out 210 00:09:21,590 --> 00:09:18,980 of the 800 or so 211 00:09:24,050 --> 00:09:21,600 uaps we 212 00:09:27,230 --> 00:09:24,060 know about 500 of them like hey we 213 00:09:31,030 --> 00:09:27,240 figured that out that's still 300 or so 214 00:09:35,090 --> 00:09:31,040 objects that our government should spend 215 00:09:37,310 --> 00:09:35,100 ungodly amounts on uh the military and 216 00:09:39,470 --> 00:09:37,320 all that if we're spending all that 217 00:09:40,430 --> 00:09:39,480 money and they don't know what's above 218 00:09:44,150 --> 00:09:40,440 us 219 00:09:47,449 --> 00:09:44,160 even if it's a balloon let alone these 220 00:09:48,829 --> 00:09:47,459 objects that zip and zag right and I 221 00:09:51,290 --> 00:09:48,839 think there's also a little bit of that 222 00:09:53,269 --> 00:09:51,300 fear in Congress especially as they're 223 00:09:57,949 --> 00:09:53,279 going really hard against China 224 00:10:00,470 --> 00:09:57,959 well if these aren't uh spacecraft and 225 00:10:02,690 --> 00:10:00,480 their Chinese craft maybe that's even a 226 00:10:05,630 --> 00:10:02,700 bigger National Security concern you 227 00:10:08,509 --> 00:10:05,640 know and sure so that's where 228 00:10:11,090 --> 00:10:08,519 this is an interesting one that I love 229 00:10:15,310 --> 00:10:11,100 issues like this that don't cut into the 230 00:10:19,430 --> 00:10:15,320 normal he said she said 231 00:10:23,449 --> 00:10:19,440 uh yeah it's called BS of this town 232 00:10:26,750 --> 00:10:23,459 yeah you know and I'm gonna stay away 233 00:10:28,070 --> 00:10:26,760 from coming too much on the media I've 234 00:10:29,990 --> 00:10:28,080 been watching it for a long time but 235 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:30,000 it's definitely been super partisan 236 00:10:34,190 --> 00:10:32,100 lately and it's nice to see something 237 00:10:37,090 --> 00:10:34,200 like this bring people together 238 00:10:39,470 --> 00:10:37,100 I'm a comps prop I rip on the media 239 00:10:41,030 --> 00:10:39,480 all the time 240 00:10:43,130 --> 00:10:41,040 well it just seems they just care about 241 00:10:46,790 --> 00:10:43,140 partisanship and here we go we have this 242 00:10:49,910 --> 00:10:46,800 UAP story and you know as hard as it is 243 00:10:52,730 --> 00:10:49,920 to believe we have kind of the most uh 244 00:10:54,590 --> 00:10:52,740 vetted incredible witness in the history 245 00:10:57,889 --> 00:10:54,600 of ufology coming forward and saying No 246 00:10:59,389 --> 00:10:57,899 this stuff is real and you know there's 247 00:11:02,030 --> 00:10:59,399 there's channels that aren't even 248 00:11:04,069 --> 00:11:02,040 covering it at all and I'm pretty sure 249 00:11:08,569 --> 00:11:04,079 it's because Republicans are the louder 250 00:11:10,970 --> 00:11:08,579 ones on this stuff but see and it could 251 00:11:13,550 --> 00:11:10,980 be that and like actually my piece for 252 00:11:16,490 --> 00:11:13,560 Wired Magazine a few weeks back which 253 00:11:18,949 --> 00:11:16,500 sorry everyone it was a little snarky I 254 00:11:20,870 --> 00:11:18,959 tend to be a little but because so many 255 00:11:23,630 --> 00:11:20,880 people Asians had already covered The 256 00:11:26,269 --> 00:11:23,640 Whistleblower doing the magazine 257 00:11:28,870 --> 00:11:26,279 forward-looking piece you know I looked 258 00:11:31,009 --> 00:11:28,880 at the issue inside of 259 00:11:32,230 --> 00:11:31,019 conspiratorial Congress you know there's 260 00:11:34,790 --> 00:11:32,240 yeah 261 00:11:37,550 --> 00:11:34,800 conspiracies flying left and right about 262 00:11:39,410 --> 00:11:37,560 the last selection the next election 263 00:11:41,690 --> 00:11:39,420 etc etc 264 00:11:43,310 --> 00:11:41,700 um and so that's where it's interesting 265 00:11:45,949 --> 00:11:43,320 to see now 266 00:11:48,769 --> 00:11:45,959 you know Intel chair 267 00:11:50,690 --> 00:11:48,779 um Mark Warner and then Marco Rubio the 268 00:11:52,610 --> 00:11:50,700 vice chair and then Cinder gillibrand 269 00:11:55,910 --> 00:11:52,620 you know a more moderate Democrat right 270 00:11:58,310 --> 00:11:55,920 see them now aligned with verchette and 271 00:12:00,769 --> 00:11:58,320 Luna who are Freedom caucus Republicans 272 00:12:02,930 --> 00:12:00,779 in the house again when it's just 273 00:12:05,150 --> 00:12:02,940 National Security 274 00:12:08,030 --> 00:12:05,160 um under that guys everyone 275 00:12:11,389 --> 00:12:08,040 is really concerned and wants to get to 276 00:12:14,990 --> 00:12:11,399 the bottom of it but the undercurrents 277 00:12:16,670 --> 00:12:15,000 for for chat and Luna or hey keep keep 278 00:12:18,590 --> 00:12:16,680 on the thread and you're gonna find 279 00:12:19,690 --> 00:12:18,600 something you weren't looking for 280 00:12:22,190 --> 00:12:19,700 all right 281 00:12:24,829 --> 00:12:22,200 they're just curious if it's Chinese 282 00:12:26,870 --> 00:12:24,839 crafts that are faster than those big 283 00:12:29,210 --> 00:12:26,880 red balloons yeah and you should be 284 00:12:31,490 --> 00:12:29,220 right and I guess a part of this looking 285 00:12:33,889 --> 00:12:31,500 into if there's materials and stuff is 286 00:12:35,150 --> 00:12:33,899 is like if this stuff and I always 287 00:12:36,949 --> 00:12:35,160 thought this when they were starting 288 00:12:38,690 --> 00:12:36,959 Aero and everything but they they 289 00:12:40,370 --> 00:12:38,700 wouldn't go back and look at classified 290 00:12:42,110 --> 00:12:40,380 stuff or anything I'm like but if 291 00:12:43,790 --> 00:12:42,120 something's already there like aren't 292 00:12:45,470 --> 00:12:43,800 you just wasting everyone's time and 293 00:12:47,690 --> 00:12:45,480 money right now when you could just be 294 00:12:52,870 --> 00:12:47,700 like hey it's real you don't have to 295 00:12:56,389 --> 00:12:52,880 look you know like here it is but 296 00:13:01,069 --> 00:12:56,399 because one thing that did come out of 297 00:13:03,410 --> 00:13:01,079 the balloon incidents of 2023 is that 298 00:13:06,129 --> 00:13:03,420 Republicans and Democrats were really 299 00:13:09,170 --> 00:13:06,139 looking at the problem of over 300 00:13:11,389 --> 00:13:09,180 classification the fact that the 301 00:13:12,949 --> 00:13:11,399 government has millions and millions and 302 00:13:14,030 --> 00:13:12,959 millions of documents that they say are 303 00:13:15,910 --> 00:13:14,040 classified 304 00:13:18,590 --> 00:13:15,920 as Burchette brings up in this interview 305 00:13:21,410 --> 00:13:18,600 that we just dropped today on my sub 306 00:13:23,870 --> 00:13:21,420 stack ask a poll what he brings up is 307 00:13:25,370 --> 00:13:23,880 they still have the JFK assassination 308 00:13:26,870 --> 00:13:25,380 stuff 309 00:13:29,990 --> 00:13:26,880 um 310 00:13:33,710 --> 00:13:32,090 accidentally 50 years ago he's like all 311 00:13:35,750 --> 00:13:33,720 the people associated with that are dead 312 00:13:37,790 --> 00:13:35,760 he's like and what do you expect people 313 00:13:39,590 --> 00:13:37,800 to think when you when you do that of 314 00:13:41,269 --> 00:13:39,600 course people are going to be suspicious 315 00:13:43,370 --> 00:13:41,279 and think you're lying and holding stuff 316 00:13:45,829 --> 00:13:43,380 back like that's how it works like are 317 00:13:49,129 --> 00:13:45,839 they that kind of senile to not realize 318 00:13:51,110 --> 00:13:49,139 that when they're not transparent or 319 00:13:53,629 --> 00:13:51,120 don't change how classification works 320 00:13:56,329 --> 00:13:53,639 that's the outcome you know 321 00:13:58,129 --> 00:13:56,339 well that's the thing and even senator 322 00:14:01,430 --> 00:13:58,139 cornyn from Texas was telling me he's 323 00:14:03,350 --> 00:14:01,440 like there are warehouses full of just 324 00:14:05,569 --> 00:14:03,360 hundreds and hundreds and millions of 325 00:14:08,329 --> 00:14:05,579 government documents that are still 326 00:14:10,490 --> 00:14:08,339 classified but probably no one has seen 327 00:14:12,110 --> 00:14:10,500 them in years and years because I mean 328 00:14:16,370 --> 00:14:12,120 because they're technically not allowed 329 00:14:19,430 --> 00:14:16,380 to destroy government materials but I 330 00:14:23,150 --> 00:14:19,440 think his contention is hey we can't 331 00:14:25,389 --> 00:14:23,160 destroy him but let's declassify a lot 332 00:14:29,150 --> 00:14:25,399 of them and that circles back 333 00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:29,160 politically to Trump with his classified 334 00:14:34,670 --> 00:14:32,339 docs Biden with his classified docs and 335 00:14:36,889 --> 00:14:34,680 pens with his classified docs so like 336 00:14:40,550 --> 00:14:36,899 the fact that that was bipartisan too 337 00:14:43,129 --> 00:14:40,560 and showed that a lot of this was 338 00:14:46,189 --> 00:14:43,139 we'll see I'm I'm curious 339 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:46,199 what they do that because Congress has 340 00:14:51,829 --> 00:14:49,620 want to forget and right just like the 341 00:14:53,870 --> 00:14:51,839 media they always are chasing the new 342 00:14:57,949 --> 00:14:53,880 shiniest object and how everyone's 343 00:14:58,870 --> 00:14:57,959 focused on Election 2024 my thing is 344 00:15:01,370 --> 00:14:58,880 Right 345 00:15:04,629 --> 00:15:01,380 [\h__\h] we just hired a new 346 00:15:08,030 --> 00:15:04,639 Congress last year I know man 347 00:15:10,370 --> 00:15:08,040 2024 starts next year let's demand a 348 00:15:12,470 --> 00:15:10,380 little work out of these folks yeah and 349 00:15:15,970 --> 00:15:12,480 we're all so tired of like the the 350 00:15:18,170 --> 00:15:15,980 campaign commercials and the obvious 351 00:15:20,509 --> 00:15:18,180 partisanship where you're they're both 352 00:15:21,889 --> 00:15:20,519 sides are twisting facts just to screw 353 00:15:25,370 --> 00:15:21,899 it in a little farther in the other 354 00:15:29,329 --> 00:15:25,380 person and it's like come on man just 355 00:15:32,750 --> 00:15:30,889 like this 356 00:15:34,250 --> 00:15:32,760 this thing if it goes further you do you 357 00:15:37,129 --> 00:15:34,260 think it could really 358 00:15:41,870 --> 00:15:37,139 be something you see people campaigning 359 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:46,550 we'll see because I'm like 360 00:15:50,449 --> 00:15:48,050 this Congress to like shut the 361 00:15:53,629 --> 00:15:50,459 government down which will like annoy 362 00:15:55,670 --> 00:15:53,639 some people but then we'll get loud 363 00:15:57,530 --> 00:15:55,680 cheers from other people who are like 364 00:15:59,210 --> 00:15:57,540 what's the government done for me lately 365 00:16:01,310 --> 00:15:59,220 so 366 00:16:03,470 --> 00:16:01,320 we'll see and with the indictment 367 00:16:06,170 --> 00:16:03,480 hanging over Trump 368 00:16:09,230 --> 00:16:06,180 we'll see for some when I don't know the 369 00:16:12,710 --> 00:16:09,240 answer to this I'm curious how much 370 00:16:16,189 --> 00:16:12,720 this played into say Luna's race or even 371 00:16:18,110 --> 00:16:16,199 Matt Gates uh or burchett's race 372 00:16:19,910 --> 00:16:18,120 because 373 00:16:21,829 --> 00:16:19,920 I bet they didn't 374 00:16:25,129 --> 00:16:21,839 lead with it 375 00:16:27,590 --> 00:16:25,139 um but this next time around and then 376 00:16:30,110 --> 00:16:27,600 especially when this comes in his 377 00:16:34,250 --> 00:16:30,120 packaged in the uh 378 00:16:38,090 --> 00:16:34,260 rightful foil not tin foil with the 379 00:16:41,569 --> 00:16:38,100 rightful uh nice packaging of National 380 00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:41,579 Security and transparency and so I think 381 00:16:47,389 --> 00:16:45,360 when it's broader than just UFOs or 382 00:16:49,430 --> 00:16:47,399 Spacemen or that 383 00:16:52,069 --> 00:16:49,440 this is very serious and the questions 384 00:16:53,769 --> 00:16:52,079 that are being asked right now do impact 385 00:16:56,810 --> 00:16:53,779 us all because again 386 00:16:59,210 --> 00:16:56,820 300 or so objects flying above us there 387 00:17:00,850 --> 00:16:59,220 right we don't know what they are that's 388 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:00,860 not good 389 00:17:06,289 --> 00:17:04,740 like it you know a lot and I don't 390 00:17:08,329 --> 00:17:06,299 really expect otherwise I guess but a 391 00:17:10,610 --> 00:17:08,339 lot of people you know they'll see The 392 00:17:13,850 --> 00:17:10,620 Whistleblower whatever the news and 393 00:17:15,169 --> 00:17:13,860 they'll come into this topic and you 394 00:17:16,549 --> 00:17:15,179 know that's what I'm here for I look 395 00:17:19,010 --> 00:17:16,559 into that history but this has been 396 00:17:22,850 --> 00:17:19,020 going on man with 397 00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:22,860 highly credible Pilots uh with thousands 398 00:17:27,949 --> 00:17:25,199 of hours of flying time like documented 399 00:17:30,530 --> 00:17:27,959 in Air Force fouls going back since 47. 400 00:17:32,390 --> 00:17:30,540 so it's just to me it's like if there's 401 00:17:33,890 --> 00:17:32,400 nothing there like why are we doing this 402 00:17:35,450 --> 00:17:33,900 again because the Air Force already said 403 00:17:38,810 --> 00:17:35,460 there's nothing to it so what's the 404 00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:40,549 the interesting thing to watch because 405 00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,200 especially hearing the burchettes and 406 00:17:48,650 --> 00:17:45,360 the others really 407 00:17:51,049 --> 00:17:48,660 call them out and 408 00:17:52,909 --> 00:17:51,059 it's interesting because he's leading 409 00:17:54,730 --> 00:17:52,919 with all his cards like hey I don't 410 00:17:57,650 --> 00:17:54,740 trust you Arrow 411 00:17:59,510 --> 00:17:57,660 government it's like that might not be 412 00:18:02,570 --> 00:17:59,520 the best tax but whatever I'm not a 413 00:18:03,890 --> 00:18:02,580 lawmaker you do you yeah right but it 414 00:18:05,990 --> 00:18:03,900 will be interesting to see if they 415 00:18:07,909 --> 00:18:06,000 dislodge 416 00:18:10,250 --> 00:18:07,919 uh 417 00:18:13,610 --> 00:18:10,260 the Pentagon at all from where they've 418 00:18:15,590 --> 00:18:13,620 been which is the secret secret I mean 419 00:18:16,490 --> 00:18:15,600 but wait what did we just learn with 420 00:18:19,370 --> 00:18:16,500 this sub 421 00:18:21,770 --> 00:18:19,380 at the bottom of the ocean uh looking at 422 00:18:24,950 --> 00:18:21,780 the Titanic right well 423 00:18:27,190 --> 00:18:24,960 after a few days of us looking the 424 00:18:30,890 --> 00:18:27,200 military is like oh yeah we knew that 425 00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:30,900 and it's like did you really need that 426 00:18:34,669 --> 00:18:32,700 secret because at the end of the week 427 00:18:37,909 --> 00:18:34,679 that secret came out 428 00:18:40,669 --> 00:18:37,919 um so right and then one of the keyrings 429 00:18:42,590 --> 00:18:40,679 they actually asked 430 00:18:46,430 --> 00:18:42,600 um Moultrie or one of those guys 431 00:18:48,529 --> 00:18:46,440 um about detecting underwater craft and 432 00:18:50,210 --> 00:18:48,539 the first thing he said was we'll have 433 00:18:52,190 --> 00:18:50,220 to do that talk about that in a 434 00:18:53,930 --> 00:18:52,200 classified session and then here we are 435 00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:53,940 so that would be like if I was a 436 00:18:57,590 --> 00:18:55,380 lawmaker or something I'd be like Hey 437 00:18:59,400 --> 00:18:57,600 listen we know you can hear stuff you 438 00:19:13,150 --> 00:18:59,410 admitted it so what's the deal 439 00:19:18,110 --> 00:19:16,789 but I also have a interview that's 440 00:19:21,310 --> 00:19:18,120 probably going to come out tomorrow with 441 00:19:24,409 --> 00:19:21,320 the ranking Democrat Jim Himes rankings 442 00:19:25,669 --> 00:19:24,419 on the house intelligence committee two 443 00:19:27,830 --> 00:19:25,679 years ago 444 00:19:30,169 --> 00:19:27,840 uh 445 00:19:32,570 --> 00:19:30,179 the Pentagon officials told him because 446 00:19:34,789 --> 00:19:32,580 he asked explicitly and he recovered 447 00:19:38,270 --> 00:19:34,799 crap and he recovered organic or 448 00:19:40,549 --> 00:19:38,280 inorganic material and he was told no so 449 00:19:42,529 --> 00:19:40,559 he right now is skeptical of The 450 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:42,539 Whistleblower because he trusted Arrow 451 00:19:48,169 --> 00:19:45,600 so we'll see if Burchette can knock off 452 00:19:50,270 --> 00:19:48,179 a little bit of that trust with the 453 00:19:52,730 --> 00:19:50,280 Pentagon and arrow because then you 454 00:19:55,549 --> 00:19:52,740 might win over more folks like Himes in 455 00:19:57,890 --> 00:19:55,559 them I was wondering because he was very 456 00:19:59,390 --> 00:19:57,900 skeptical and in the hearing he was kind 457 00:20:00,049 --> 00:19:59,400 of talking more about 458 00:20:02,570 --> 00:20:00,059 um 459 00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:02,580 uh people making false claims and stuff 460 00:20:07,789 --> 00:20:04,980 so so that's nice to have that kind of 461 00:20:09,409 --> 00:20:07,799 backstory of why he was doing that yeah 462 00:20:12,470 --> 00:20:09,419 and it's gonna be interesting because 463 00:20:14,169 --> 00:20:12,480 once folks like that you know heims is 464 00:20:17,570 --> 00:20:14,179 buttoned up I think he used to be ahead 465 00:20:20,390 --> 00:20:17,580 or he did Wall Street stuff like his big 466 00:20:24,049 --> 00:20:20,400 stories after the Twin Towers went down 467 00:20:25,610 --> 00:20:24,059 on 911 he like ran home to his spot in 468 00:20:29,570 --> 00:20:25,620 Connecticut 469 00:20:32,090 --> 00:20:29,580 um yeah and so he's 470 00:20:34,130 --> 00:20:32,100 yeah he's definitely like your 471 00:20:35,570 --> 00:20:34,140 prototypical American politician and 472 00:20:37,370 --> 00:20:35,580 that's that's kind of how you know right 473 00:20:38,930 --> 00:20:37,380 when it's those folks who are like okay 474 00:20:40,370 --> 00:20:38,940 there's something to this and it's like 475 00:20:47,750 --> 00:20:40,380 well 476 00:20:50,029 --> 00:20:47,760 right now he's skeptical but oversight 477 00:20:50,750 --> 00:20:50,039 committee they got the gavels and they 478 00:20:54,470 --> 00:20:50,760 gave 479 00:20:56,390 --> 00:20:54,480 uh oversight chair Comer told me he's 480 00:20:59,150 --> 00:20:56,400 given all the power of the investigation 481 00:21:00,830 --> 00:20:59,160 to burchett and Luna as well I think 482 00:21:02,990 --> 00:21:00,840 that alone is a little bit of a game 483 00:21:05,150 --> 00:21:03,000 changer because it at least changes the 484 00:21:06,590 --> 00:21:05,160 conversation here in Washington 485 00:21:08,990 --> 00:21:06,600 because 486 00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:09,000 if anything they're flipping it on the 487 00:21:16,190 --> 00:21:11,360 government and saying no you you 488 00:21:19,370 --> 00:21:16,200 disprove this right right right see yeah 489 00:21:20,870 --> 00:21:19,380 and and I love that he's not falling for 490 00:21:23,150 --> 00:21:20,880 their bull crap either and he's the guy 491 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:23,160 heading it you need you need that so I 492 00:21:28,970 --> 00:21:25,860 think that's I think that's great but 493 00:21:30,649 --> 00:21:28,980 um the senate committee what is that on 494 00:21:32,690 --> 00:21:30,659 emerging threats with uh Senator 495 00:21:35,270 --> 00:21:32,700 gillibrand might hold a hearing too is 496 00:21:36,350 --> 00:21:35,280 that right a public one with Russia if 497 00:21:39,470 --> 00:21:36,360 he agrees 498 00:21:42,350 --> 00:21:39,480 she told me she's in talks with him and 499 00:21:45,770 --> 00:21:42,360 his people and what she wants is to hear 500 00:21:47,930 --> 00:21:45,780 from him either in uh public hearing or 501 00:21:51,230 --> 00:21:47,940 classified 502 00:21:53,090 --> 00:21:51,240 um and then she also wants as in 503 00:21:55,130 --> 00:21:53,100 dialogue with all the other people named 504 00:21:58,149 --> 00:21:55,140 in that initial uh I think it's the 505 00:22:00,409 --> 00:21:58,159 debrief had the initial interview 506 00:22:03,590 --> 00:22:00,419 so she wants to hear from all the other 507 00:22:05,450 --> 00:22:03,600 people as well and a couple of them are 508 00:22:07,610 --> 00:22:05,460 still in the government even though a 509 00:22:10,789 --> 00:22:07,620 couple are former members of the 510 00:22:12,890 --> 00:22:10,799 government to I'm especially looking at 511 00:22:16,070 --> 00:22:12,900 what those current government employees 512 00:22:17,270 --> 00:22:16,080 say because in that article that main 513 00:22:19,310 --> 00:22:17,280 article 514 00:22:22,549 --> 00:22:19,320 They Don't Really mince words 515 00:22:24,730 --> 00:22:22,559 no no and that's what's so amazing 516 00:22:27,049 --> 00:22:24,740 because we're so used to that 517 00:22:28,909 --> 00:22:27,059 like kind of beating around the bush but 518 00:22:31,789 --> 00:22:28,919 here they're like nope yeah Jonathan 519 00:22:34,850 --> 00:22:31,799 gray is is the one that sticks out to me 520 00:22:37,430 --> 00:22:34,860 the most ooh you know is apparently what 521 00:22:39,409 --> 00:22:37,440 he goes by at Wright-Patterson Air Force 522 00:22:41,270 --> 00:22:39,419 Base but it's not like his birth name or 523 00:22:42,649 --> 00:22:41,280 something but 524 00:22:44,690 --> 00:22:42,659 um this guy is located at 525 00:22:47,810 --> 00:22:44,700 Wright-Patterson Air Force Base with the 526 00:22:50,930 --> 00:22:47,820 National Air and Space Center and that's 527 00:22:53,690 --> 00:22:50,940 the same group that uh initially started 528 00:22:55,669 --> 00:22:53,700 studying UFOs in 47 it just went by a 529 00:22:58,310 --> 00:22:55,679 different name ATEC it was called then 530 00:22:59,930 --> 00:22:58,320 but it morphed into where this Jonathan 531 00:23:02,450 --> 00:22:59,940 gray is at now so that's super 532 00:23:05,690 --> 00:23:02,460 interesting to me because if this really 533 00:23:08,690 --> 00:23:05,700 goes back to you know 43 or 47 like 534 00:23:10,250 --> 00:23:08,700 David grush says it's exactly where this 535 00:23:12,710 --> 00:23:10,260 person's department is and he would 536 00:23:16,549 --> 00:23:12,720 definitely know so that's interesting 537 00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:16,559 right yeah so lots of spreads the pole 538 00:23:21,770 --> 00:23:20,159 yeah do you 539 00:23:27,230 --> 00:23:21,780 how 540 00:23:28,669 --> 00:23:27,240 um different people being transparent 541 00:23:30,110 --> 00:23:28,679 with you these different Representatives 542 00:23:33,110 --> 00:23:30,120 that are talking to you do you think 543 00:23:35,390 --> 00:23:33,120 there's saying everything 544 00:23:37,549 --> 00:23:35,400 they think or know are you getting a 545 00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:37,559 Vibe as far as 546 00:23:41,149 --> 00:23:39,480 you know this may be one thing versus 547 00:23:43,250 --> 00:23:41,159 the other 548 00:23:44,690 --> 00:23:43,260 well so I actually know 549 00:23:46,789 --> 00:23:44,700 that there's things that they're not 550 00:23:49,310 --> 00:23:46,799 telling me because 551 00:23:51,049 --> 00:23:49,320 I know them so well like I used to be 552 00:23:54,789 --> 00:23:51,059 the correspondent for Virginia Public 553 00:23:58,549 --> 00:23:54,799 Radio and DC's NPR station so 554 00:24:00,830 --> 00:23:58,559 uh Warner was governor of Virginia and 555 00:24:02,450 --> 00:24:00,840 then senator for Virginia and the fact 556 00:24:06,409 --> 00:24:02,460 that I've been covering Congress for 17 557 00:24:09,409 --> 00:24:06,419 years now I predate a lot of these 558 00:24:11,270 --> 00:24:09,419 lawmakers so one of the first things 559 00:24:13,610 --> 00:24:11,280 they see when they get to the Hills this 560 00:24:16,490 --> 00:24:13,620 face for better and For Worse 561 00:24:18,529 --> 00:24:16,500 um and so I know 562 00:24:20,630 --> 00:24:18,539 when uh 563 00:24:23,330 --> 00:24:20,640 like Warner's been funny especially 564 00:24:26,029 --> 00:24:23,340 because like when the news first came 565 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:26,039 out there was like a flock of reporters 566 00:24:29,930 --> 00:24:27,840 around him and once he came up the 567 00:24:32,149 --> 00:24:29,940 escalator I just made sure I got my 568 00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:32,159 question in and I just asked about the 569 00:24:37,370 --> 00:24:34,620 saps like is 570 00:24:39,230 --> 00:24:37,380 we went straight for the blood oh yeah 571 00:24:44,510 --> 00:24:39,240 and 572 00:24:46,789 --> 00:24:44,520 all over his words that's my first wired 573 00:24:49,310 --> 00:24:46,799 piece and then like the second interview 574 00:24:52,010 --> 00:24:49,320 with him that I released yesterday 575 00:24:55,010 --> 00:24:52,020 um on my patreon but only because the 576 00:24:56,750 --> 00:24:55,020 sub stack was messing up but ask a poll 577 00:24:58,250 --> 00:24:56,760 substance where to go 578 00:25:00,529 --> 00:24:58,260 he um 579 00:25:02,210 --> 00:25:00,539 stops himself and if he was actually 580 00:25:04,310 --> 00:25:02,220 telling me turn off your mic turn off 581 00:25:06,230 --> 00:25:04,320 your mic and I you can hear it in the 582 00:25:08,330 --> 00:25:06,240 audio but I'm like 583 00:25:10,370 --> 00:25:08,340 no and I got that last question in 584 00:25:12,549 --> 00:25:10,380 because I'm like no I don't want to go 585 00:25:15,350 --> 00:25:12,559 on background you know I don't know 586 00:25:16,669 --> 00:25:15,360 yeah so we'll see because Senator 587 00:25:21,049 --> 00:25:16,679 Heinrich 588 00:25:32,750 --> 00:25:21,059 he 589 00:25:35,210 --> 00:25:32,760 things that we know that kind of refute 590 00:25:37,070 --> 00:25:35,220 some things he's saying but then 591 00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:37,080 Heinrich still had questions on other 592 00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:40,980 things and so we'll see and like my 593 00:25:46,669 --> 00:25:44,340 overarching question is 594 00:25:50,330 --> 00:25:46,679 if there was 595 00:25:52,610 --> 00:25:50,340 like so technically like at the 596 00:25:56,029 --> 00:25:52,620 Capital they call it I think the gang of 597 00:25:58,549 --> 00:25:56,039 eight right so it's the true Democratic 598 00:26:00,350 --> 00:25:58,559 Party leaders so in this case Schumer 599 00:26:02,450 --> 00:26:00,360 and Hakeem Jeffries then it's the two 600 00:26:04,430 --> 00:26:02,460 Republican leaders 601 00:26:07,789 --> 00:26:04,440 McConnell in the Senate and then speaker 602 00:26:09,649 --> 00:26:07,799 McCarthy and then the four heads of the 603 00:26:12,049 --> 00:26:09,659 Intel committee 604 00:26:13,909 --> 00:26:12,059 Republicans and the Damned 605 00:26:15,350 --> 00:26:13,919 there are certain things that those 606 00:26:18,169 --> 00:26:15,360 eight people 607 00:26:20,870 --> 00:26:18,179 can know and not the rest of Congress 608 00:26:25,610 --> 00:26:20,880 and then I'm like wait 609 00:26:29,269 --> 00:26:25,620 could Warner even tell me me or his 610 00:26:31,909 --> 00:26:29,279 colleagues if there was this sap that he 611 00:26:32,870 --> 00:26:31,919 knew about that others didn't and that's 612 00:26:36,049 --> 00:26:32,880 where 613 00:26:38,750 --> 00:26:36,059 yeah I have a lot of questions and yeah 614 00:26:42,289 --> 00:26:38,760 Now sort of the rank and file 615 00:26:44,810 --> 00:26:42,299 um in shoot so do the chairs so 616 00:26:46,870 --> 00:26:44,820 we'll see I've never seen 617 00:26:51,110 --> 00:26:46,880 Congress 618 00:26:53,810 --> 00:26:51,120 investigate and be so curious but also 619 00:26:56,149 --> 00:26:53,820 be so nervous I mean because the claim 620 00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,159 if the federal government has been lying 621 00:27:01,370 --> 00:26:58,799 to Congress over decades uh and Joe 622 00:27:03,169 --> 00:27:01,380 brand says she's even taking steps in 623 00:27:06,590 --> 00:27:03,179 the National Defense authorization act 624 00:27:08,750 --> 00:27:06,600 or the ndaa she's putting language in 625 00:27:10,730 --> 00:27:08,760 there she did already yeah that's gonna 626 00:27:11,750 --> 00:27:10,740 explicitly say 627 00:27:13,730 --> 00:27:11,760 come 628 00:27:16,250 --> 00:27:13,740 the funding for any program in the 629 00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,260 government has to come directly from 630 00:27:20,510 --> 00:27:18,659 Congress you can't take money from here 631 00:27:24,529 --> 00:27:20,520 and put it over here 632 00:27:27,169 --> 00:27:24,539 so by doing that she's kind of 633 00:27:29,690 --> 00:27:27,179 trying to smoke them out relax a better 634 00:27:30,529 --> 00:27:29,700 word to see if there are these programs 635 00:27:33,890 --> 00:27:30,539 so 636 00:27:36,409 --> 00:27:33,900 from whatever from whatever call yeah 637 00:27:39,110 --> 00:27:36,419 she's just like saying if if anyone's 638 00:27:41,510 --> 00:27:39,120 running a UAP program 639 00:27:45,169 --> 00:27:41,520 um or has materials at six months to 640 00:27:48,190 --> 00:27:45,179 turn in the materials the arrow and it 641 00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:50,090 we'll see what happens right because 642 00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:51,360 it's one of those things like if they've 643 00:27:55,909 --> 00:27:53,159 managed to hide it for this long like 644 00:27:58,370 --> 00:27:55,919 what about this process is gonna 645 00:28:00,049 --> 00:27:58,380 you know uncover that itself so I guess 646 00:28:01,909 --> 00:28:00,059 we just you know the whistleblowers I 647 00:28:03,230 --> 00:28:01,919 suppose are the witnesses we'll see 648 00:28:05,750 --> 00:28:03,240 where it goes it's interesting because 649 00:28:07,430 --> 00:28:05,760 yeah if if this blows up in their faces 650 00:28:09,230 --> 00:28:07,440 how embarrassing is that they went on a 651 00:28:10,970 --> 00:28:09,240 UFO Chase right 652 00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:10,980 yeah and I think that'll be the 653 00:28:15,289 --> 00:28:13,140 interesting thing to also watch as 654 00:28:17,390 --> 00:28:15,299 Congress starts 655 00:28:18,409 --> 00:28:17,400 these investigations or these hearings 656 00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:18,419 they've already started their 657 00:28:23,630 --> 00:28:20,880 investigations and I guess the Senate 658 00:28:26,990 --> 00:28:23,640 Intel committee talked to David grosh 659 00:28:28,789 --> 00:28:27,000 weeks if not months ago so even way 660 00:28:30,110 --> 00:28:28,799 before the debrief article came out 661 00:28:32,269 --> 00:28:30,120 right 662 00:28:33,529 --> 00:28:32,279 um which they couldn't tell me on the 663 00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:33,539 record 664 00:28:40,310 --> 00:28:36,779 um so enjoy that one so 665 00:28:42,529 --> 00:28:40,320 going to be interesting going forward to 666 00:28:45,529 --> 00:28:42,539 see 667 00:28:47,630 --> 00:28:45,539 what the administration does right um 668 00:28:49,850 --> 00:28:47,640 because 669 00:28:52,909 --> 00:28:49,860 if Congress starts making a lot of fire 670 00:28:54,529 --> 00:28:52,919 and smoke they're going to have to act 671 00:28:58,370 --> 00:28:54,539 and then it 672 00:29:01,250 --> 00:28:58,380 yeah right right yeah that's a that's a 673 00:29:04,010 --> 00:29:01,260 good point have you ever seen anything 674 00:29:06,470 --> 00:29:04,020 um to where it's kind of like uh let's 675 00:29:08,870 --> 00:29:06,480 say a scandal starts you know coming 676 00:29:10,909 --> 00:29:08,880 through different maybe press outlets 677 00:29:12,890 --> 00:29:10,919 and it gets bigger and bigger and before 678 00:29:14,990 --> 00:29:12,900 there's like an investigation or a big 679 00:29:17,149 --> 00:29:15,000 reveal the White House comes in and 680 00:29:18,529 --> 00:29:17,159 makes a statement 681 00:29:19,789 --> 00:29:18,539 damn 682 00:29:23,630 --> 00:29:19,799 they uncertain 683 00:29:28,250 --> 00:29:26,029 historically because Warner in the 684 00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:28,260 interview I released yesterday 685 00:29:32,269 --> 00:29:30,000 chair of the Intel committee tells me 686 00:29:34,730 --> 00:29:32,279 that in his time being in Congress and 687 00:29:38,930 --> 00:29:34,740 he was elected when Obama was in 08 so 688 00:29:40,970 --> 00:29:38,940 since 2009 until today in 2023 he knows 689 00:29:43,549 --> 00:29:40,980 of the government hiding 690 00:29:45,230 --> 00:29:43,559 these special access programs or saps 691 00:29:47,570 --> 00:29:45,240 from Congress 692 00:29:49,669 --> 00:29:47,580 he says they were accidentally hit from 693 00:29:51,950 --> 00:29:49,679 Congress so he gives 694 00:29:55,130 --> 00:29:51,960 I'm sure one Administration or another 695 00:29:57,409 --> 00:29:55,140 the shadow of the doubt but I was trying 696 00:30:02,029 --> 00:29:57,419 to think of what those could be would it 697 00:30:05,029 --> 00:30:02,039 mean Abu gray stuff you know uh some 698 00:30:08,570 --> 00:30:05,039 American torture stuff in terms of Iraq 699 00:30:12,110 --> 00:30:08,580 or Afghanistan war but now I'm like 700 00:30:15,169 --> 00:30:12,120 is there any sap that wasn't related to 701 00:30:19,010 --> 00:30:15,179 War and the War Powers that was hit from 702 00:30:21,950 --> 00:30:19,020 Congress and that I can't recall 703 00:30:23,510 --> 00:30:21,960 yeah uh yeah that's interesting the one 704 00:30:25,789 --> 00:30:23,520 thing I think about 705 00:30:27,710 --> 00:30:25,799 is uh I don't know if you're familiar 706 00:30:30,049 --> 00:30:27,720 with ASAP at all 707 00:30:33,049 --> 00:30:30,059 awesome is 708 00:30:34,130 --> 00:30:33,059 so when this all started in 2017 uh the 709 00:30:36,289 --> 00:30:34,140 story came out in New York Times 710 00:30:39,049 --> 00:30:36,299 regarding the UFO program that was 711 00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:39,059 actually uh that was going on that 712 00:30:43,730 --> 00:30:41,220 nobody knew about within the dod and it 713 00:30:46,970 --> 00:30:43,740 was called atip well right before atip 714 00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:46,980 it was called ASAP and this is all like 715 00:30:51,470 --> 00:30:49,440 uh verified documented stuff 716 00:30:54,710 --> 00:30:51,480 and this was right like right around 717 00:30:56,930 --> 00:30:54,720 that time frame and they did they had a 718 00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:56,940 contract with the DIA 719 00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,940 and the guy who's responsible for 720 00:31:04,610 --> 00:31:01,860 setting all this up is on the record 721 00:31:07,730 --> 00:31:04,620 saying that no one around him knew what 722 00:31:09,049 --> 00:31:07,740 the program was actually for 723 00:31:12,529 --> 00:31:09,059 um meaning they didn't actually know 724 00:31:14,090 --> 00:31:12,539 what was about UFOs so I could uh I 725 00:31:15,830 --> 00:31:14,100 don't know maybe see something like that 726 00:31:17,570 --> 00:31:15,840 happening where they have this UFO 727 00:31:19,190 --> 00:31:17,580 project but you know they're saying it's 728 00:31:21,950 --> 00:31:19,200 something else so therefore Congress 729 00:31:23,810 --> 00:31:21,960 doesn't know I don't know 730 00:31:26,570 --> 00:31:23,820 I don't know how that works I guess but 731 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:26,580 just they can see but I don't know how 732 00:31:31,909 --> 00:31:29,760 that works and I've been here 17 years 733 00:31:34,549 --> 00:31:31,919 I bet a lot of these lawmakers don't 734 00:31:36,110 --> 00:31:34,559 know how it works probably 735 00:31:38,690 --> 00:31:36,120 because 736 00:31:43,130 --> 00:31:38,700 over the past 737 00:31:44,930 --> 00:31:43,140 20 30 40 50 years bipartisan we've seen 738 00:31:47,269 --> 00:31:44,940 Congress seeding its power to the 739 00:31:50,570 --> 00:31:47,279 executive branch so this is one of the 740 00:31:53,450 --> 00:31:50,580 rare times in Congress actually finally 741 00:31:55,549 --> 00:31:53,460 Flex it muscles its muscles and trying 742 00:31:59,450 --> 00:31:55,559 to get some of that power back or at 743 00:32:01,850 --> 00:31:59,460 least be let in on the secret right also 744 00:32:03,649 --> 00:32:01,860 an outcome that could happen a lot of 745 00:32:05,510 --> 00:32:03,659 these lawmakers might get right into the 746 00:32:07,850 --> 00:32:05,520 program and then have to shut their 747 00:32:10,610 --> 00:32:07,860 mouths but that's kind of why birchette 748 00:32:12,110 --> 00:32:10,620 says if it's a classified hearing he 749 00:32:14,630 --> 00:32:12,120 doesn't want to be a part of it because 750 00:32:17,210 --> 00:32:14,640 he's like they lie to us in there and 751 00:32:20,810 --> 00:32:17,220 then you can't tell our constituents and 752 00:32:22,789 --> 00:32:20,820 the American public I think around 68 of 753 00:32:25,370 --> 00:32:22,799 whom now 754 00:32:27,669 --> 00:32:25,380 um believe that there is life or 755 00:32:30,350 --> 00:32:27,679 something out there 756 00:32:33,470 --> 00:32:30,360 that's the number I saw it comes in my 757 00:32:37,789 --> 00:32:33,480 mind it's over 60 but that was a drastic 758 00:32:38,990 --> 00:32:37,799 change in the past three four even five 759 00:32:41,029 --> 00:32:39,000 years 760 00:32:42,710 --> 00:32:41,039 um so I'm intrigued on 761 00:32:44,690 --> 00:32:42,720 because especially if the American 762 00:32:46,610 --> 00:32:44,700 public really 763 00:32:50,029 --> 00:32:46,620 want stuff and real quick I was just 764 00:32:52,909 --> 00:32:50,039 down in Orlando and the James Webb Space 765 00:32:55,250 --> 00:32:52,919 Telescope exhibit when you look at 766 00:32:57,710 --> 00:32:55,260 something like that and now like with 767 00:33:01,250 --> 00:32:57,720 that new technology we're seeing so much 768 00:33:04,130 --> 00:33:01,260 deeper into space and learning that 769 00:33:06,289 --> 00:33:04,140 there's so much more out there than we 770 00:33:08,690 --> 00:33:06,299 ever thought like we couldn't even 771 00:33:11,269 --> 00:33:08,700 imagine what was there before and so I 772 00:33:13,850 --> 00:33:11,279 think mines are expanding with the 773 00:33:16,610 --> 00:33:13,860 technology yeah and there is kind of uh 774 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:16,620 like a almost like a 775 00:33:21,710 --> 00:33:18,720 I'm forgetting the word but kind of uh 776 00:33:25,730 --> 00:33:21,720 like a singularity almost with with uh 777 00:33:29,570 --> 00:33:25,740 AI technology and the the you know the 778 00:33:32,750 --> 00:33:29,580 the general intelligence uh learning and 779 00:33:34,669 --> 00:33:32,760 yeah James Webb's telescope and I think 780 00:33:36,470 --> 00:33:34,679 we're gonna have a couple big physics 781 00:33:39,230 --> 00:33:36,480 announcements soon I'm not sure what 782 00:33:41,029 --> 00:33:39,240 that is but it seems like everything's 783 00:33:46,250 --> 00:33:41,039 kind of coming together at the same time 784 00:33:50,870 --> 00:33:48,950 what role is this playing in all this 785 00:33:52,549 --> 00:33:50,880 because I've you know there's so much 786 00:33:55,730 --> 00:33:52,559 going on in the world with the you know 787 00:33:58,549 --> 00:33:55,740 nearly World War III right and just like 788 00:34:00,769 --> 00:33:58,559 drug epidemics and uh everything just 789 00:34:03,649 --> 00:34:00,779 seems like it's really chaotic right now 790 00:34:05,389 --> 00:34:03,659 so this UAP thing at this time it just 791 00:34:06,649 --> 00:34:05,399 seems so 792 00:34:10,669 --> 00:34:06,659 um 793 00:34:12,530 --> 00:34:10,679 too perfect almost at times but but I'm 794 00:34:15,109 --> 00:34:12,540 not sure you know you know Ronald Reagan 795 00:34:16,790 --> 00:34:15,119 always said that uh you know imagine if 796 00:34:19,970 --> 00:34:16,800 an alien species came from another 797 00:34:21,290 --> 00:34:19,980 planet how uh minuscule our problems 798 00:34:23,510 --> 00:34:21,300 would seem and how we would come 799 00:34:26,930 --> 00:34:23,520 together as as a human race 800 00:34:29,389 --> 00:34:26,940 so you know maybe sometimes maybe 801 00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:29,399 that'll be needed who knows 802 00:34:35,270 --> 00:34:33,119 yeah well what do you think Les any 803 00:34:40,070 --> 00:34:35,280 final comments what should we look out 804 00:34:43,970 --> 00:34:41,450 um I still have some interviews I'll be 805 00:34:46,490 --> 00:34:43,980 dropping over the next few days I'll be 806 00:34:49,010 --> 00:34:46,500 dropping one each day this week cool and 807 00:34:52,430 --> 00:34:49,020 then now with the new sub stack I 808 00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:52,440 launched called ask a pole basically you 809 00:34:56,089 --> 00:34:54,060 know because I'm a comms professor and 810 00:34:59,329 --> 00:34:56,099 the thing that disheartens me the most 811 00:35:01,970 --> 00:34:59,339 now is polls from like gallop and Pew 812 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:01,980 showing that like some 50 of the 813 00:35:05,510 --> 00:35:04,380 American public doesn't just not trust 814 00:35:08,450 --> 00:35:05,520 the media 815 00:35:12,170 --> 00:35:08,460 they trust us to actually be telling 816 00:35:13,910 --> 00:35:12,180 lies and so that's my big qualm with 817 00:35:15,410 --> 00:35:13,920 Washington in the Press Corps you know 818 00:35:17,870 --> 00:35:15,420 on the left there's this 819 00:35:20,750 --> 00:35:17,880 self-righteousness in the way they speak 820 00:35:23,990 --> 00:35:20,760 like oh and I think we're just like 821 00:35:26,329 --> 00:35:24,000 really pushing away the American people 822 00:35:27,890 --> 00:35:26,339 and the polls are showing it and so 823 00:35:30,170 --> 00:35:27,900 that's where with this site I'm trying 824 00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:30,180 to bring you all into the conversation 825 00:35:34,130 --> 00:35:32,400 you know these are your lawmakers and 826 00:35:36,010 --> 00:35:34,140 y'all know more about the issue than I 827 00:35:39,589 --> 00:35:36,020 do so you all feed me the information 828 00:35:41,050 --> 00:35:39,599 I've got access to your lawmakers 829 00:35:43,450 --> 00:35:41,060 um 830 00:35:46,329 --> 00:35:43,460 I'd love to help you out 831 00:35:49,849 --> 00:35:46,339 all right keep them coming 832 00:35:52,370 --> 00:35:49,859 cool man well like uh yeah I think 833 00:35:54,650 --> 00:35:52,380 you're doing some great work so I really 834 00:35:56,089 --> 00:35:54,660 appreciate it I think journalists that 835 00:35:57,589 --> 00:35:56,099 just search for the truth no matter 836 00:36:00,589 --> 00:35:57,599 where it leads are going to be the ones 837 00:36:03,170 --> 00:36:00,599 that that can uh get this world in this 838 00:36:04,849 --> 00:36:03,180 country back on track so I'm thankful 839 00:36:08,450 --> 00:36:04,859 for people like yourself doing that no 840 00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:08,460 you know no matter the political side or 841 00:36:12,950 --> 00:36:09,780 whatever it doesn't matter you're going 842 00:36:15,109 --> 00:36:12,960 for for what's real and I appreciate 843 00:36:16,849 --> 00:36:15,119 that and I know everybody else does so 844 00:36:18,730 --> 00:36:16,859 one one thing I'm enjoying because this 845 00:36:21,410 --> 00:36:18,740 is definitely a new beat for me 846 00:36:23,089 --> 00:36:21,420 be careful of UFO Twitter because people 847 00:36:26,030 --> 00:36:23,099 are really nasty there by the way for 848 00:36:28,490 --> 00:36:26,040 years I covered cannabis and drug policy 849 00:36:31,130 --> 00:36:28,500 when no one else was and like people 850 00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:31,140 like Rubio he'd be like are you gonna 851 00:36:36,770 --> 00:36:34,980 ask me a weed question you know this is 852 00:36:39,829 --> 00:36:36,780 love it so I'm used to being the 853 00:36:42,410 --> 00:36:39,839 outsider on Capitol Hill and I wear that 854 00:36:48,849 --> 00:36:42,420 as a badge of [\h__\h] honor yeah good 855 00:36:54,349 --> 00:36:52,010 uh oh I did want to ask you this there 856 00:36:56,450 --> 00:36:54,359 were rumors that the the Burchette 857 00:36:58,970 --> 00:36:56,460 hearing or something might be held in 858 00:37:01,609 --> 00:36:58,980 Florida have you heard of that at all 859 00:37:04,970 --> 00:37:01,619 I did hear 860 00:37:08,089 --> 00:37:04,980 that brought up oh and that might be 861 00:37:09,589 --> 00:37:08,099 in Luna's District or right right near 862 00:37:12,410 --> 00:37:09,599 the space coast 863 00:37:15,290 --> 00:37:12,420 interesting so I didn't even Broach that 864 00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:15,300 that's a question I'll have the week 865 00:37:20,349 --> 00:37:17,280 after the fourth or so 866 00:37:25,370 --> 00:37:23,270 okay so the interesting part about that 867 00:37:27,890 --> 00:37:25,380 is uh Gates and 868 00:37:31,069 --> 00:37:27,900 um somebody else actually were briefed 869 00:37:33,710 --> 00:37:31,079 that he said that they were briefed at 870 00:37:35,450 --> 00:37:33,720 some place in Florida and they saw a 871 00:37:37,730 --> 00:37:35,460 video of an object doing things that 872 00:37:39,170 --> 00:37:37,740 can't be explained so maybe there's 873 00:37:42,349 --> 00:37:39,180 nothing in there 874 00:37:45,349 --> 00:37:42,359 so that was Burchette Gates and I 875 00:37:47,510 --> 00:37:45,359 believe Miss Luna was there too or she 876 00:37:50,210 --> 00:37:47,520 might have gone at another time but I'm 877 00:37:53,150 --> 00:37:50,220 pretty sure it was the three of them or 878 00:37:55,430 --> 00:37:53,160 I know it was gate Super Chat so you 879 00:37:57,890 --> 00:37:55,440 know why do you feel okay showing uh 880 00:37:59,750 --> 00:37:57,900 Congressional uh Representatives but not 881 00:38:00,500 --> 00:37:59,760 the American public since they're paying 882 00:38:05,470 --> 00:38:00,510 your taxes 883 00:38:07,970 --> 00:38:05,480 [Laughter] 884 00:38:09,829 --> 00:38:07,980 all right brother I appreciate it man 885 00:38:11,690 --> 00:38:09,839 I'd love for you to come back and you 886 00:38:13,490 --> 00:38:11,700 know if as long as you're on this beat 887 00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:13,500 come back and and 888 00:38:19,010 --> 00:38:16,980 chop it up so yes sir all right time 889 00:38:21,470 --> 00:38:19,020 have a good one thanks everybody in the 890 00:38:24,410 --> 00:38:21,480 chat hit the like button and subscribe 891 00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:24,420 and we'll see you next time peace 892 00:38:37,089 --> 00:38:28,270 tonight we go after a fantastic story 893 00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:37,099 [Music] 894 00:38:42,950 --> 00:38:40,380 you saw in our air is not the only one 895 00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:42,960 to come forward according to Rubio said 896 00:38:47,750 --> 00:38:45,359 I find most of these people at some 897 00:38:49,609 --> 00:38:47,760 point or maybe even currently have held 898 00:38:51,050 --> 00:38:49,619 very high experiences in high positions 899 00:38:55,830 --> 00:38:51,060 within our government we're definitely 900 00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:03,609 [Music]